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    Had this for a while now

    I have had ich in my tank for a while now. The cycle keeps going on. I have not lost a fish to it but i am wondering how i can eliminate ich completly from my tank.

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    Didn't you just added more fish to the system?

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    ich will never be eliminated while a "food source" is available or you "kill it". keep in mind the method of killing it while keeping your livestock in the tank is not something I would recommend. This involves dosing with copper based medications. Paraguard is another medication and is supposed to work like copper based medications but has its own synthetic proprietary forumla so it is supposed to be safe with corals and inverts. I have not tested this so maybe others can confirm.

    Me personally I would put all livestock into QT and run hypo on it for 6-10 weeks leaving my display tank running but without fish so the ich will actually 100% die off. Read up on the life cycle of ich and it is very interesting. Even medications pretty much cannot kill it when it is in its adult stage so you have to basically catch it (all of them are constantly at different life stages) as it falls off the fish going from adult stage to egg stage to start its life cycle over again. Keep in mind this is continually happening so running hypo kills them with 0-no stress on the fish for the entire life cycle of all of the ich. In your display tank you are effectively killing all of the ich by leaving it fallow and having no fish for them to feed on for all of the possible life cycles in the tank. Worse case scenario is that a ich parasite just fell off a fish you removed and is starting its 28 day cycle so technically its 28 days from the day you removed fish. Most people will do 6-10 weeks though which is typically a little under to a little over double the time needed just as a precaution. If you are already going through the trouble to do a hypo QT why not wait the few extra weeks so you know without a shadow of a doubt you have killed all the ich in the tank.

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    Can i run hypo on my dt with all of the fish and coral still in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke W. View Post
    Can i run hypo on my dt with all of the fish and coral still in it
    No, you will need to setup a different tank for that. Hypo is not good for inverts of corals.
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    If i just run hypo in a qt then how will the ich die off in my dt

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    Because there are no fish for them to "feed on"

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    I read that if i get a cleaner blenny and he cleans the parasites off the fish then i use kent c to boost the dies of the fish so that no ich can host the ich will die off from starvation. I do not have a qt in the budget right now so i will first try that.

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    What fish do you have? all you need is a bate bottom tank with a hang on back filter and a heater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke W. View Post
    I read that if i get a cleaner blenny and he cleans the parasites off the fish then i use kent c to boost the dies of the fish so that no ich can host the ich will die off from starvation. I do not have a qt in the budget right now so i will first try that.
    I've not herd of this method before. If you decide to go this way. I hope you are right. The longer that you wait to correct the problem. The more you are playing with the lives of the fish.
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    In reagards to levis paraguard statement. I run paraguard full strength in 3 of my systems. 2 of which have core and inverts. Seachem doesn't advise doing this and says to do so at your own risk. I took the risk and haven't lost anything. Just my experience. I recommend doing your own research on it and making your own decision

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    Could I put the fish in a 38 gallon for a month or two as a qt. the only issue is catching them

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    ok i understand your trying to fix the issue now but you said that your tank has had ich for a while now, and you just added fish to your system did you add fish to your system knowing it had ich?

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    I understand that catching the fish can be troublesome but there is a good chance that sooner or later the fish will die if left untreated. I guess you need to weigh your options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke W. View Post
    Could I put the fish in a 38 gallon for a month or two as a qt. the only issue is catching them
    Absolutely! My quarantine is a 30 gallon tanks with a sump. So total gallons = 45. This would do 2 things for you.
    1. Allow for your display to go fallow for 6-10 weeks. This will cycle out the ick that is in the tank.
    2. Run hypo for the fish in the other tank and rid them of ick also.

    The troulble is catching the fish. You are right. But I would be finding a way to do this.
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    What can I use to speed up the cycle of the qt.

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    Paragaurd is not for external parasites. Do a 7min freshwater dip then a medicated QT tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke W. View Post
    What can I use to speed up the cycle of the qt.
    the QT does not need a cycle all that is in there is a heater and maybe a piece of pvc for them to hid in and behind

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    Quote Originally Posted by kutcha View Post
    the QT does not need a cycle all that is in there is a heater and maybe a piece of pvc for them to hid in and behind
    Yup just throw a hob with Reg filters. Beware of any medication you choose to,use and be,sure it isn't removed they carbon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
    Paragaurd is not for external parasites. Do a 7min freshwater dip then a medicated QT tank.
    Oh contraire monfraire

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