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Reefkoi
08-11-2009, 11:51 AM
OK I got my 400 internal pulled out today and replaced it with a 300 SM from Premium Aquatics, thanks for the speedy shipment Jeremey!

I had him send me a second pump for the 400 a month back because this skimmer is an older 400 that only had 1 pump and not enough power (I think) to do the job right.

Since I am setting up a large frag system I figured I'd pull the 400 and clean it up good, drill the hole add the second pump and use it on the new system where there will be a lot more room in the sump.

ANYWAY, I thought I'd throw them side by side so you guys could see how they measure up. The 400 is a monster for sure, the 300 fits in its place with much more room and if it performs well I'll be very happy.

onto the pics.........

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b46/reefkoi/IMG_1075.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b46/reefkoi/IMG_1074.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b46/reefkoi/IMG_1073.jpg

ReefJerk
08-11-2009, 12:52 PM
So, what's the difference in the one pump from the 400 to the two pumps on the 300? Is it just gph or pressure as well?

On a side note, I guess we can speculate what is your brand of choice on skimmers. :) Very nice.

Reefkoi
08-11-2009, 01:27 PM
well two pumps doubles the air and water flow, the 400 is a huge skimmer and too big for one pump really thats why the newer ones come with 2 pumps.

Yeah you could say I like BK skimmers, I hate putting them in the sump though........its a shame not being able to see all of it ;)

Powerman
08-11-2009, 07:38 PM
Here is my side by side shot. I sold my 160 for the K2. BKs are works of art. Didn't really appreciate it until it was next to the K2. The K2 is well built, but it is no BK.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f217/free2801/k2-160.jpg

I'm ironing a few things out still, but it is broke in. Sad to think you have more in those two skimmers than I do my whole setup. I do like shinny things.

Reefkoi
08-11-2009, 09:06 PM
What is a k2?

Powerman
08-11-2009, 09:18 PM
Warner Marine cone. They had K1, now a K2. Little bit more than a 160. 900 lph.

Don't mean to hijack. Knowing how a 160 looks, I can understand your apprehension to throw your 300 in a bunch of poop.

Reefkoi
08-11-2009, 10:39 PM
ahh I gotcha, I have a warner marine 150 laying around, its a pretty decent looking skimmer, they arent cheap either though.

C

racer69
08-12-2009, 07:03 AM
Thats a brand new warner marine 150 laying around....he won it in a raffle in California.

Reefkoi
08-12-2009, 09:58 AM
Yeah and now I don't know what to do with it haha, I was thinking on my frag system some how but now that the 400 is going on it.......maybe I should have taken Kirbys generous offer of $10 ;)

racer69
08-12-2009, 11:33 AM
I will give you 10x that amount. Maybe we can work something out and I will trade him the MW for his G4 for my frag system.

Kirblit
08-12-2009, 11:54 AM
Yeah and now I don't know what to do with it haha, I was thinking on my frag system some how but now that the 400 is going on it.......maybe I should have taken Kirbys generous offer of $10 ;)

Hey that was a pretty sweet deal, double your money :idea:

Kirblit
08-12-2009, 11:56 AM
I will give you 10x that amount. Maybe we can work something out and I will trade him the MW for his G4 for my frag system.

Apparentlly that skimmer is worth $458, so I think you would have to give him more than that. I need a bigger skimmer for my DT anyway, I was going to use the WM on my frag tank.

Reefkoi
08-12-2009, 12:45 PM
Todd, maybe we can work out a trade..............I need another acrylic frag display tank built.....get to it! I'll trade you the skimmer for a tank if that works

racer69
08-12-2009, 01:04 PM
Done. You want the same size? 28x18x6

Reefkoi
08-12-2009, 02:05 PM
no..........I want a 60"x24"x6"

racer69
08-12-2009, 03:37 PM
Damn your killing me smalls.

Reefkoi
08-12-2009, 04:17 PM
I know..........How about we split the acrylic cost or something......I can't remember how many sheets it takes and what they cost.....

racer69
08-12-2009, 04:18 PM
It will only take 1-1/2 sheets, I am just bustin your balls.

Reefkoi
08-12-2009, 04:23 PM
I know but I think since I won it you are getting screwed, I don't mind coughing up some dough......

racer69
08-12-2009, 04:33 PM
Hey, whatever will make you sleep at night works for me. lol Wait, that means I get to make you a tank and pay cash....shesh what am I saying?

Huhhhhh
08-12-2009, 05:30 PM
Well if your're building tanks What would it cost to do a 24 X 18 X 6 if I help?

Will it be cheaper if I don't help?:yesnod:

racer69
08-12-2009, 07:58 PM
Give me a call and we will talk about it....I am not in the tank building business, but I will make a few.

Huhhhhh
08-12-2009, 08:02 PM
Give me a call and we will talk about it....I am not in the tank building business, but I will make a few.

Ok, I was just thinking about replacing the one I've been using. I don't like the overflow box in it.

racer69
08-12-2009, 08:13 PM
Yeah, I don't blame you. I don't like that disign at all, it is too tall and not enough floor space. I will talk to you tonight or tomorrow anyway.

Reefkoi
08-12-2009, 10:53 PM
Get to work gramps.......you got a lot of tanks to build.

68sting
08-15-2009, 10:21 AM
What are going to do with the skimmer thats on your frag system at the moment?

JLAURENCE32
08-15-2009, 06:42 PM
Since I am setting up a large frag system...

Are you redoing the one you have now or setting up another bigger one? That one you got now is pretty big.

Reefkoi
08-15-2009, 09:54 PM
The skimmer on my little frag system will stay put the 400 is for the new one. I have 3 4'x8' tanks being built right now for the expansion project.

Gomojoe
08-16-2009, 04:37 AM
Dang! Three tanks that big? You taking over the garage or the basement with that build, chris?

Reefkoi
08-16-2009, 09:10 AM
The garage for now........I need to find a commercial space close to home but for now I'll squeeze them in here.

mountaindew
08-16-2009, 09:32 AM
The skimmer on my little frag system will stay put the 400 is for the new one. I have 3 4'x8' tanks being built right now for the expansion project.

Wow, Going big time!
Good for you!
Nice to know I have some premiere coral farmers close by.
md

Reefkoi
08-16-2009, 09:52 AM
Yeah well its still just me playing with corals and doing what I love, the expansion and parent stock is costing me 5 figures, so it will take a hell of a lot of swaps and auctions to pay for LOL good thing I am still digging some ditches......but this is something for the future, maybe when I'm older and don't want to play in the sewage anymore I can make a living off this venture.

I am however selling my frags at Aquamart exclusively in Colorado so I will have to shut down the walk ins, but I will have WYSIWYG corals on my new website sometime in late September- October so I will still sell locally that way and of course at the frag swaps we have in denver several times a year..........speaking of, there is a swap next door to Aquamart on the 12th of September I'm hoping to drag a few pieces to that one, hopefully some of the other C/S farmers will go up there and buy/sell as well.

C

Huhhhhh
08-16-2009, 10:15 AM
Who is putting on the Sept 12th swap?

xsocali
08-16-2009, 10:33 AM
DARC is having their garage sale/swap.

Reefkoi
08-16-2009, 01:35 PM
yep just like that one you went to a few months ago Tim, same type deal, same location etc.

Huhhhhh
08-16-2009, 01:36 PM
Nice, I guess I'll plan on being there.