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Tristan.winfrey
02-28-2017, 12:28 PM
Ok so maybe someone here can help me. I would like to get a healthy amount of pods going in my 5 gallon tank. Obviously it isn't large enough to be self-sustained. So I'm wanting tips on how I can easily grow my own. I was thinking of just throwing some rock and chaeto into a 5 gallon bucket with a bubbler. Would this work? Any better suggestions?

jjmoneyman
02-28-2017, 01:08 PM
You have to feed phyto as well.




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Joe
02-28-2017, 01:12 PM
I have been keeping a healthy pod and rotifer mix going in 5 gallon buckets for years. Haven't had a single crash. I feed drops from an algae paste I get from Reed Mariculture. Live phyto would be optimum, but I haven't tried to culture that myself yet.

I don't use a heater or a bubbler. No rock or cheato. Rock might be a decent idea, but cheato would require lighting, which I don't do currently. I have post on here recently with a video of the crap ton of pods I have going in the buckets. If you want some to seed your project, I sell a 16 ounce bottle loaded for $15. These guys seem to be bulletproof.

Kirblit
02-28-2017, 10:25 PM
I have been keeping a healthy pod and rotifer mix going in 5 gallon buckets for years. Haven't had a single crash. I feed drops from an algae paste I get from Reed Mariculture. Live phyto would be optimum, but I haven't tried to culture that myself yet.

I don't use a heater or a bubbler. No rock or cheato. Rock might be a decent idea, but cheato would require lighting, which I don't do currently. I have post on here recently with a video of the crap ton of pods I have going in the buckets. If you want some to seed your project, I sell a 16 ounce bottle loaded for $15. These guys seem to be bulletproof.
He's not lying, his method is stupid easy! Go check it out if you have any doubts. Joe you should post a picture of your "setup" so people can really wonder why we don't all do it. After seeing it there is no reason for a mandarin to ever starve to death again. I plan on doing a setup for myself in the future.

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Balz3352
02-28-2017, 10:59 PM
I'd be interested in a write up!

Joe
03-01-2017, 10:17 PM
Here is my high tech, high investment pod breedery thingy.

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii542/Joethecoral/IMG_6652_zpsdtkct8j9.jpg

Tristan.winfrey
03-01-2017, 10:26 PM
Thanks joe, I sorry for the delayed response been a crazy couple of days for me! So just maybe some rock in a bucket with pods and phytoplankton and that's it?! Do you do water changes in the. I let? If so, how often? Any other tips?

Joe
03-01-2017, 10:43 PM
I add water back in when I collect pods, to replace what I took out. If it gets really really nasty, I'll pour the top water into a clean bucket and clean out the old one. Don't let salinity get high. They will populate less if you get close to 1.030. I shoot for 1.025 or lower. Add just enough phyto to keep the water a light green.

Tristan.winfrey
03-03-2017, 10:32 AM
That definitely sounds simple enough! I will have to get some pods and rotofiers from you here soon! Thanks for the help! My wife appreciate it! lol after all she wants a manderin badly which is why I need the pods!

ddwmedic
03-04-2017, 02:11 PM
So you just use regular tank water?
Do you propagate brine also? I understand it takes different water, is that true?
Where do you get the phyto?


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Joe
03-04-2017, 05:21 PM
So you just use regular tank water?
Do you propagate brine also? I understand it takes different water, is that true?
Where do you get the phyto?


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Yes. Just the same mix I use for my tank.
I do raise brine, but just a little at a time. I bought eggs in bulk and use the black UFO looking hatchery from Brine Shrimp Direct. Same water, just pour it in the dish, add the eggs, and put the cover on. No bubbler, no heat - just a bunch of fresh hatched baby brine shrimp in about 18 hours.
What I use instead of live phyto is an algae paste for raising rotifers I get from Reed Mariculture. I think it is rotigrow or something like that. I buy it in a big bag, pour it into small containers and freeze them, and thaw and mix with RO when I need to.

Tristan.winfrey
03-04-2017, 08:54 PM
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Tristan.winfrey
03-04-2017, 08:56 PM
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Tristan.winfrey
03-04-2017, 08:58 PM
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Tristan.winfrey
03-04-2017, 08:58 PM
So this is all I need? Don't need to get the water circulating or anything?

Joe
03-04-2017, 10:13 PM
I haven't tried using that phyto, but it would probably work. Live phyto would be the best and leave the least gunk at the bottom. I would not have the bucket so full to give you room for dipping them out. I don't even use a light. When it's time to harvest them, I scoop out water and strain it through a fine mesh to capture the pods and not keep the water. Because I have rotifers in my mix, I use a 50 micron to catch those tiny guys and the pods. Then I replace the water I take out. Don't forget to periodically check the salinity and add fresh R/O water. It will be less often than your display because there isn't a heater speeding up evaporation.

If it starts smelling foul, I add a few drops of Prime, which also stinks, but it keeps the ammonia down.

jjmoneyman
03-05-2017, 11:09 AM
Ok since I do pods and rots as well I'll throw in my 2 cents. Yes lose the light, waste of electricity, not needed at all. Air pump will increase pod production but also increase in evap and you'll have to replace with RO every couple of days. That phyto is not for for growing pods, it's for tank dosing, and you'll have very success with it. Reed Mariculture produces phyto just for culturing pods and is really the only way to go (yes I've tried many different phytos including growing my own). Reed sells it frozen in 1 liter pouches which is what I use but they also sell it in bottles for hobbyists. Getting a mesh sieve is great for removing the pods from the rest of the culture. You're also welcome to swing by sometime and I can walk you through my pod growing system.

This is the best phyto on the market for growing pods (in my opinion):
https://ecs7.tokopedia.net/img/product-1/2015/11/1/4899692/4899692_fde6ff24-d57a-4690-9978-2e02cebf4fec.jpg

Joe
03-05-2017, 01:18 PM
That's the same stuff I get in the 1 liter bags, I wan't sure of the name. I think the RG stands for rotigrow. So you think it beats live phyto: that's good to know because I was thinking of trying to grow my own, but didn't really want to get started with it. However, do you see benefits of using live phyto for the tank in general?

jjmoneyman
03-05-2017, 02:28 PM
I grow on a pretty large scale so trying to grow enough like phyto to keep up takes up too much room. For growing rots and tigers RG is the best stuff around (I buy it frozen in the liter bags). They say for tisbe you need live but I grow tisbe just fine with the frozen, just don't reproduce as fast.

Tristan.winfrey
03-05-2017, 08:04 PM
Jared helped me out and walked me through his setup and now mine is going and I'll be making my own pods

ddwmedic
03-06-2017, 03:56 PM
Just to make sure, the RGcomplete is phyto? I don't see the 1L pouches...


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ddwmedic
03-06-2017, 04:10 PM
Just to make sure, the RGcomplete is phyto? I don't see the 1L pouches...


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I had this for brine, it has an air stone built in the bottom. This should work then even without light or air?



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jjmoneyman
03-07-2017, 08:52 AM
Yuppers




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