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Murfman
11-13-2013, 07:51 AM
Found this blog this morning; http://www.reefaddicts.com/entry.php/548-What-does-Phosphate-look-like

bazeball05
11-13-2013, 11:06 AM
Found this blog this morning; http://www.reefaddicts.com/entry.php/548-What-does-Phosphate-look-like

That's really interesting and I would definitely like to try that. Could you carbon dose directly into the skimpier to help as well?


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Murfman
11-13-2013, 11:19 AM
That's really interesting and I would definitely like to try that. Could you carbon dose directly into the skimpier to help as well?


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I am sure you could but I think it takes longer to saturate than this does.

bazeball05
11-13-2013, 11:59 AM
Ah gotcha


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calvin415
11-13-2013, 01:08 PM
I've been researching this for the last 6 months, it is basically lanthanum chloride which is a phosphate binder. If you google it and search youtube you can find more info about it, it is still very controversial, but public aquariums use it to help control phosphates.

calvin415
11-13-2013, 01:10 PM
Jump ahead to about 12:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OJ7NzSLdPo

bazeball05
11-13-2013, 01:25 PM
Is it relatively cheap to use?

Edit: haha watched the video and wow 30 bucks for a lifetime haha

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Joe
11-13-2013, 05:00 PM
I bought a 32 oz bottle From Amazon in May for $24. Looks like it's about $28 with shipping now. I have been experimenting with it. No ill effects noticed. I quit testing phosphates after a while. Seemed to work well. I read these articles before trying it. I don't remember the dosage. I was putting a little at a time diluted into the skimmer section, not directly in the cone and not into a filter sock. My dose was low enough I didn't get the cloudy effect or visible precipitation. I think the skimmer was pulling it out.

http://www.coralmagazine-us.com/content/foiling-phosphate http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1474839 http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1958364

If you buy it (or anything from Amazon), you can go to Amazonsmile and pick a charity and they will donate .05% of the price to your charity. No cost to you. I did that to make a portion of my sales go to Angels of America's Fallen.
http://smile.amazon.com/SeaKlear-Phosphate-Remover-Treatment-Solution/dp/B008UMF4PQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384383745&sr=8-1&keywords=seaklear+phosphate

Murfman
11-13-2013, 05:13 PM
Joe, what was your dosing rate?

Joe
11-13-2013, 05:26 PM
I don't remember. I stopped when my tank cracked. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the lanthanum chloride that caused the crack by the way! I'll dig back into the articles try to remember. It was what was recommended in one of them. I was using it on my 220 and not the 180, which is still running.

calvin415
11-13-2013, 05:37 PM
The only concern I've read is that if the LC does not come in contact with Phosphates it is free floating in your water column. This could cause the precipiate to form anywhere and the worry is that is could release back into phosphate at a later time which could compound the issue. Plus who knows what impact it could have on fish/corals/clams etc... We've just increased our carbon dosing (vinegar in the top off barrel) and watched the algae melt away. :)

Joe
11-13-2013, 05:47 PM
I was using GFO too. So. I never got to the point of really testing it out. I was mainly using a little to watch for problems before going higher and removing the. GFO. Calvin, what dose of vinegar are you using?

calvin415
11-14-2013, 08:37 AM
About 1/2 C per 55g of top off.